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Don’t Believe The Hype: IRS Provides Update on Employee Retention Credit (ERC) Processing

July 15, 2024 Nancy McClelland Leave a comment

Thanks yet again, and as always, to Lisa Simpson from the AICPA Town Hall for her regular updates on what’s going on with Employee Retention Credit processing at the IRS. I can trust this team to make sure I’m getting the latest information, free from rumors and gossip, and that I’m able to both quell my clients’ concerns and also manage their expectations.

I had just been hearing some rumblings in one of my professional associations — someone had said, “seems inevitable that anyone who filed an ERC claim after September 2023 will need to file a lawsuit to get the claim paid,” and went on to suggest that it would be a great opportunity for a law firm, and wanted to know if we had referrals in this space.

First off, it made me nervous — our remaining ERC claims, all for deserving small business and non-profit clients of a colleague, worked really hard to make sure we had what we needed to submit their claims by January 31st, 2024, since there was pending legislation that might retroactively end the program after that date. They all were informed that it might be a year or more before they received the money, given the IRS moratorium — but certainly none of us expected to line the pockets of an attorney in order to get the claims paid out. And in fact, the claims were mostly small enough that my guess is most lawyers wouldn’t bother with them.

Secondly… it made me suspicious. On what basis was this guy saying a lawsuit would be “inevitable”? I attend every single AICPA Town Hall and hadn’t heard anyone suggest this. And what a sad thing to suggest it would be a “great opportunity” for a law firm — to specialize in making money off those desperate to finally receive what they and their accountants had already worked so hard to obtain.

As usual, I decided to quell those fears until the next AICPA Town Hall, and I’m so glad I did, as Lisa Simpson made ERC the first topic in her Technical Update. She explained the recent IRS news release that likely triggered the unfounded rumblings I was hearing, as well as referenced a new Journal of Accountancy article that delved deeper.

My takeaway was that: while 10-20% of claims are clearly fraudulent, and the IRS is in the process of denying them; and another 60-70% show an unacceptable level of risk and will be examined carefully — there are also between 10% and 20% of the claims show a low risk. The IRS “will begin judiciously processing” more of these claims, and, according to the release, expects some of these payments to be made later this summer.

To me, that’s all good news. It means they’re working through the piles and expediting the ones that have straightforward claims where the businesses played by the rules, processing the oldest ones first. The rest will be examined more critically, or in the case of blatant fraud, flat-out denied.

The one disappointing piece of information is that no claims submitted during the moratorium will be processed at this time. But at least we know the backlog is being cleared to make way for them. Since the moratorium was put in place, the IRS has received over 17,000 claims per week.

I’ve let my clients know that they shouldn’t budget for these dollars for at least another year, but that there’s no reason to presume they won’t eventually receive the claims that are due to them.

And yet again I learned that if something sounds sensational and suspicious… it might not be grounded in evidence and analysis. Rely only on your trusted advisors for the education and resources that will help you guide your small business clients. (And then provide links to those resources to the sensationalists who spread misinformation.)

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ERC Voluntary Disclosure Program: aka Last Chance To Keep 20% Of Your Unentitled Pandemic Tax Credit Funds

March 22, 2024 Nancy McClelland Leave a comment

The IRS is offering an amazing deal to those who either fraudulently or mistakenly claimed Employee Retention Credits (ERC) to which they weren’t entitled.

If a taxpayer claimed and received ERC funds, and for whatever reason now realizes that they may not actually have qualified (either for a particular period or for the whole thing) — they can return 80% of the money to the IRS and call it a day.

Considering that more than 3.6 million claims have been submitted, and the IRS refunds run up to $26,000 per employee… we’re talking about big dollars here. As of July 31, 2023, the IRS Criminal Investigation division had initiated 252 investigations involving over $2.8 billion of potentially fraudulent ERC claims.

We were extremely diligent in filing ERC claims for our clients — it took literally months of effort in research, software development, calculations, data collection, interviews and narrative-writing, not to mention preparing the actual tax forms and support. So initially I was extremely frustrated to find that people who filed claims without substantiation could return only 80% of the money and keep 20% for themselves. However, IRS Commissioner Werfel explained the rationale behind this decision, as reported by Journal of Accountancy:

“We could not stand idly by as small businesses were being taken advantage of by promoters trying to get hefty fees,” he said. He later described the 80% figure as “an important incentive to participate in the disclosure program. Participating businesses do not need to repay all 100% of the payment they receive.”

And this makes sense. Not just our clients, but our own firm (which decidedly does not qualify for ERC) was bombarded by calls and official-looking forms designed to lure us in to thinking that we were entitled to this “free money”. And they charged exorbitant fees in the 20-30% range, without providing any of the substantiation a taxpayer would need in case of audit. As a result, these scams topped the list of the IRS “Dirty Dozen” in 2023.

So it’s not surprising that, although the process to participate in the voluntary disclosure program is quite easy and simple — one of the requirements is that the applicant must provide names, addresses, and phone numbers of any advisers or tax preparers who helped with the claim, as well as details about the services provided. I’m hoping that this will cause some of these “mills” to get what they deserve for defrauding small businesses and our government.

Taxpayers wishing to participate in the ERC voluntary disclosure program must notify the IRS by completing and submitting Form 15434, Application for Employee Retention Credit Voluntary Disclosure Program. Program participants will not be charged underpayment interest, and the IRS will not assert civil penalties against them for underpayment of employment tax attributable to the ERC. And those that cannot repay the required 80% might be considered for an installment agreement.

If you are among those who has submitted a claim that hasn’t been approved yet (or received your checks but have not yet cashed them), you can still withdraw your claim, following instructions on the IRS ERC FAQ (#5 under “Correcting an ERC Claim”). They even include a sample withdrawal form.

I’ve interviewed countless ERC claim companies and narrowed it down to only two with whom I have trusted my colleagues and their clients. (It’s truly stunning how many out there have no idea what they’re doing, even the ones that aren’t intentionally skirting the rules.) One of them, Tri-Merit, recently released an episode of Randy Crabtree’s Unique CPA Podcast that dives into the biggest ERC changes for 2024. The service of theirs I recommend the most often (for which I can offer a referral link) is their “ERC Verification” offering, where they take a look at what you’ve claimed and either verify that it was done correctly, or recommend changes and help process the amendments. They stress that it is never too late to fix a claim that has already been paid.

And for those of you who have filed accurate ERC claims and are still waiting for the IRS to end its moratorium — still no information on when processing will begin again. Keep your eye on the AICPA’s ERC Resource Center; or check in with my blog — I’ll be one of the first to joyfully report it when the time comes!

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Tax Season 2023 Is Officially Open! Maybe. Okay, Not So Fast.

January 30, 2024 Nancy McClelland Leave a comment

(Many thanks to the AICPA Town Hall for allowing members to leverage their resources, such as the slides included in this article. The opinions shared here are the author’s and not those of AICPA or CPA.com.)

Tax preparers everywhere spent the past two months gearing up for yesterday’s “opening day” of tax season, January 29th. It was an exciting time for us, as it was finally going to be a return to normal. What does that even mean anymore, you might ask? Well, most of the pandemic financial relief programs have wrapped up (save a straggler ERC claim here or there); amendments resulting from that era have almost all been filed; the odd rebates and credits that no one remembered the amounts for were a thing of the past; there were no last-minute tax extenders; and the season end-date actually lands on April 15th for the first time in ages. It felt like we finally had a handle on things and were back to the “normal” amount of seasonal overwork — rather than a Herculean lift, as was the case for the past four years.

Enter Congress. Despite the fact that The American Institute of Certified Public Accountants (AICPA), National Association of Tax Professionals (NATP) and small business advocacy groups have been lobbying for over a year to get an extension of certain popular tax benefits that expired in 2023, our leaders somehow managed to wait until after year-end to introduce legislation to that effect — Tax Relief for American Families and Workers Act — in a spectacular show of bipartisan ignorance. Never mind that the IRS e-file has been offline since November 18th, because it takes over two months to reprogram the systems for new tax laws, updates, and edits to tax forms.

As for January 30th, the legislation has yet to come up for a vote. And yet the IRS is telling taxpayers to go ahead and file when ready, and makes no reference to the pending legislation in today’s Outreach Connection email.

Some of the anticipated changes if the legislation passes as-written include popular business expensing programs that are designed to be leveraged throughout the year. Making them retroactive does nothing to spur the economy, as the decisions to buy equipment, invest in R&D, or take out loans were already made, last year.

To be clear: I’m not saying these aren’t potentially good changes for tax law, business, and the economy. Just that doing it at this late date is misguided in far too many ways.

And the part I really don’t understand is this: IRS Commissioner Werfel told reporters last Friday, “If there’s a change that impacts your return, we will make the change, and we will send you the update — whether it’s an additional refund or otherwise — without you having to take additional steps.” This is simply impossible for most of the business expensing features of the law, which are voluntary elections on the part of the taxpayer. Presumably this is a reference to the child tax credit provisions in the legislation — which have gotten the most press, but have little effect on small business owners, and are a small portion of the actual bill.

The House Ways and Means Committee released a statement recently indicating that the IRS “confirmed its intention to make necessary systems updates by around six weeks after the date of enactment”. Six weeks. Most refunds are issued within three. Six weeks takes us past the S-Corp and Partnership filing deadline. Six weeks?

Speaking of that deadline, many states announced e-filing would begin on the same date as the IRS opened federal tax season, but it turns out that our state (and I’m guessing others) did not release their S-Corp or Partnership forms with enough advance notice for our third-party tax software to program them into their system, so we are unable to e-file any Illinois business tax returns until February 7th. And we were freaking out about that delay. I can’t imagine what six weeks will look like.

To say nothing of the fact that the next government shutdown deadline is scheduled for one week before business tax returns are due. This should make for an even more laid-back season.

And to add to all of this, that the bill is being funded by an early end to the Employee Retention Credit program, as of January 31, 2024. We spent all of last week scrambling to get the remaining claims in, and won’t know whether that sprint was worth the anxiety or not until this bill passes (or doesn’t) — I feel terrible for those who find out in February that their claim’s due date is suddenly in the past.

Again, some of the provisions in this bill are great ideas — well thought-through, balanced, as well as good for business, families, and potentially the economy. Bad players in the world of ERC mills will finally have to deal with some consequences, and the 1099 burden for small vendors and freelancers will be eased as the threshold is finally indexed for inflation. Some good stuff.

So let’s pass this as 2024 legislation, just in time for the new year, as it should be… and get out of the way of tax season, already!

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NSAC Offers Employee Retention Credit (ERC) Webinar Aug 23

August 15, 2022 Nancy McClelland Leave a comment

Employee Retention Credits (ERC) (nsacoop.org)

My colleagues at the National Society of Accountants for Cooperatives are offering a 75-minute webinar on Tuesday, August 23 to discuss the requirements and pitfalls in claiming Employee Retention Credits (ERC). The cost is free to members and $56 to non-members.

The ERC has been in the news quite a bit lately due to aggressive tactics by non-CPA firms claiming to be able to apply for these credits on behalf of business owners. (We’ll have an upcoming blog covering that topic.) However, the rules regarding whether or not a business qualifies are complex, and best performed by a knowledgeable professional.

During this webinar, the panelists will provide an overview of the Employee Retention Credit (ERC) and how to qualify for ERC including:

• Partial and full shutdowns as they apply to the ERC
• What constitutes “gross receipts”
• Safe Harbors
• Rules for Large Employers
• Unsettled matters and how the IRS is examining ERC claims

Participants are encouraged to submit questions in advance at info@nsacoop.org and during the session.

If you are an accountant or bookkeeper calculating these credits for your clients, or a business owner considering a DIY approach, please make sure you are thorough about obtaining education and resources before submitting anything to the IRS. You can expect their enforcement division to ramp up audits in the next few years.

Employee Retention Credits (ERC) (nsacoop.org)

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IRS Service Issues – What Is Being Done? How Can You Help?

February 12, 2022 Nancy McClelland Leave a comment

On last week’s AICPA Town Hall they discussed the IRS service issues I posted about recently, as well as the advocacy efforts by the newly-formed Tax Professionals United for Taxpayer Relief Coalition — including the AICPA, NATP, and many other organizations. (Check out their recent media briefing here.)

They were effective in getting a bi-partisan group of nearly 200 members of Congress to send a letter to the US Treasury Secretary requesting the IRS implement the following:

Halt automated collections from now until at least 90 days after April 18, 2022;
Delay the collection process for filers until any active and pending penalty abatement requests have been processed;
Streamline the reasonable cause penalty abatement process for taxpayers impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic without the need for written correspondence;
Provide targeted tax penalty relief for taxpayers who paid at least 70 percent of the tax due for the 2020 and 2021 tax year; and
Expedite processing of amended returns and provide TAS and congressional caseworkers with timely responses.”

Shortly afterwards, the IRS announced they are suspending a small portion of automated notices — which they clarified on February 9 as “notices of unfiled returns and unpaid balances generally, including a final notice of an outstanding balance and intent to levy”.

The IRS identified the suspended letters and notices as:

CP80, notice of an unfiled tax return. The IRS sends this when it has credited payments or other credits to the taxpayer’s account but has not received a tax return for the tax period.
CP59, unfiled tax return, first notice. The IRS sends this when it has no record of a prior-year return’s having been filed. The Spanish-language version, CP759, is included.
CP516, unfiled tax return, second notice. This is a request for information on a delinquent return for which there is no record of filing. The Spanish-language version, CP616, is included.
CP518, final notice — return delinquency. The Spanish-language version, CP618, is included.
CP501, balance due, first notice. This letter is a reminder of an outstanding balance on the taxpayer’s accounts.
CP503, balance due, second notice.
CP504 balance due, third and final notice. This also is a notice of intent to levy.
2802C, withholding compliance letter. This letter notifies taxpayers whom the IRS has identified as having underwithheld taxes from their wages, with instructions on correcting their withholding amount.
CP259, business return delinquency. The IRS has no record of a prior-year return’s having been filed. The Spanish-language version, CP959, is included.
CP518, final notice of a business return delinquency. The Spanish-language version, CP618, is included.

Per the Journal of Accountancy: “How long the letters and notices will be suspended or at what point the backlog can be considered sufficiently cleared to resume them remains unclear. The news release Feb. 9 said the IRS “will continue to assess the inventory of prior year returns to determine the appropriate time” to start sending them again. And there has been no mention of relieving taxpayers from their obligation to file returns or pay taxes that are the subject of the letters and notices, if those returns and taxes are indeed unfiled and unpaid.”

While this is a welcome step, it falls seriously short of what is needed.

In a recent Op Ed, former National Taxpayer Advocate Nina Olson outlined her suggestions to “fix the IRS”, and the AICPA Journal of Accountancy podcast elaborates on the following four recommendations:

Discontinue automated compliance actions until the IRS is prepared to devote the necessary resources for a timely resolution
Align requests for account holds with the time it takes the IRS to process any penalty abatement requests
Offer a reasonable cause penalty waiver, similar to the procedures of first-time abatement administrative waiver
Provide taxpayers with targeted relief from the underpayment and the late payment penalty for the 2020 and 2021 tax year

The podcast (highly-recommended short listen!) walks through these one-by-one and explains why each is crucial — in a very straightforward manner, providing examples of what kind of struggles real-life taxpayers and their advisors are going through.

A key takeaway: “What we’re trying to do with these recommendations is to lessen the need to reach out to the IRS. In theory, if we’re having to call the IRS less then the IRS will be able to get to people who have other types of problems and get those problems resolved.”

The Washington Post shared an article today highlighting the severity of the IRS backlog and what it means for this tax season.

In testimony before the House Ways and Means Committee on Tuesday, National Taxpayer Advocate Erin Collins noted that as of late December, the IRS had a backlog of 6 million unprocessed individual returns and 2.3 million unprocessed amended individual returns. In addition, more than 2 million Forms 941, Employer’s Quarterly Federal Tax Return, and its amended version remained unprocessed. Many of the latter included claims of the employer retention credit emergency pandemic relief provision.

But all this isn’t enough — they need to hear actual stories from real taxpayers about what you’ve gone through. If you had a challenge with the IRS in the past couple years, and especially if you have an ongoing issue, please contact your Senators and Representatives to tell your personal story. This generally moves them to action, and what we need now is continued and increased pressure on the IRS to make short-term immediate changes that will affect the here-and-now of this tax season.

RESOURCES:
Find your rep: https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
Members of Congress Twitter handles: https://twitter.com/i/lists/34179516/members
IRS Social Media: @IRS

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IRS Finally Issues Guidance On Employee Retention Credit (ERC)

August 12, 2021 Nancy McClelland Leave a comment

It finally happened… the IRS released long-awaited guidance on the Employee Retention Credit (ERC):
• August 4 – Notice 2021-49 and accompanying IR-2021-165
• August 10 – Rev. Proc. 2021-33

Some major questions were answered:
• Whether wages of more than 50% shareholders and their spouses are considered qualified wages for the purpose of the credit.
(Mostly “no”, unless you’re an orphan with no living siblings or kids. Much frustration abounds — more on this later.)
• Whether cash tips are included in qualified wages.
(Yes. Good news!)
• Whether full-time employees or full-time equivalent employees should be used to calculate the number of employees to determine whether a business is a small or large eligible employer.
(Head-count, not FTEs. Good news again!)
• Timing of the wage deduction disallowance.
(Must be on 2020 tax return, so amend if already filed.)
• Does gross receipts for ERC include PPP, SVOG, RRF?
(Mostly “no”, as long as you treat them consistently. More good news!)

They also released rules on changes made to the ERC by the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) regarding:
• Recovery Start-up Business
• Severely Financially Distressed Employer

There were other significant updates to the ERC as well, including clarifications as to:
• If an employer may claim both the ERC and the Internal Revenue Code Section 45B “Tip Tax Credit” that applies to food and beverage workers.
(YES! You can double-dip. Truly shocking, and good news.)
• Instructions on amending filed income tax returns returns after receiving the ERC.

Thankfully, the AICPA shared numerous resources on these in this week’s Town Hall — I strongly recommend viewing the AICPA TV session called “Employee Retention Credit: Your Questions Answered”. In this video, Kristin Esposito and April Walker review the IRS notice and explain guidance on the common questions listed above.

Additionally, AICPA released two Tax Adviser Articles:
• Guidance on claiming ERC
• New safe harbor for ERC gross receipts calculation

They are also putting together a panel of practitioners for a September Town Hall, to discuss how each is dealing with client returns based on this new guidance.

In addition to all the AICPA goodies, our go-to legal resource, Alan Gassman and Brandon Ketron recorded a “PPP and ERC Update” video on August 7th that explores (and vents) Notice 2021-49 (it was recorded prior to Rev. Proc 2021-33, so there’s no reference to the fact that PPP, SVOG, and RRF receipts are not included in gross income for ERC qualification purposes).

Which is a good segue to circle back to the frustration derived from the IRS’s “letter of the law” guidance. The basic idea is that if owners have any living relatives (regardless of association with the business), their wages do not qualify for ERC — but those of an orphan with no siblings or offspring would. Unsurprisingly, this didn’t go over well in the accounting and legal communities:

NCCPAP blasts IRS guidance on Employee Retention Credit | Accounting Today

Newly Issued Employee Retention Credit Guidance Punishes Owner Employees If They Have Living Family Members | Forbes

Practitioners call for fixes to the Employee Retention Credit | Accounting Today

IRS Issues Additional Guidance for Claiming the Employee Retention Tax Credit | Gould & Ratner LLP – JDSupra

I suspect the IRS is attempting to force Congress’s hand by taking the sloppily-written legislation at face value and therefore releasing a ridiculous literal interpretation they know could not have been intended. But without sufficient administrative authority to read their own preferences into it, the IRS has now put Congress in a position to have to release new legislation to explicitly spell out their original intent. Will this happen anytime soon? Do we hold off on filing client 941-X returns in the meantime? Or is Congress too busy to right this wrong?

We’ll be mulling these questions over in the next few weeks, with the intention of making a game-time call with enough time to get our September 15th extended business tax returns filed.

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FREE Employee Retention Credit (ERC) Small Business Workshop

July 26, 2021 Nancy McClelland Leave a comment

Employee Retention Credit (ERC) Small Business Workshop | NFIB

The National Federation of Independent Business is hosting a free webinar with special guest, Matt Evans, CPA, SMA, CFM. Join them as he reviews the benefits of the ERC program, a refundable tax credit that could be worth up to $33,000 per employee for qualified wages an eligible employer pays to employees after March 12, 2020, and before December 31, 2021.

In this FREE webinar, Matt will explain how to:

• Determine ERC eligibility;
• Calculate the amount of ERC;
• Access and apply for the ERC; and
• Utilize both the PPP and ERC programs.

NFIB hosts Beth Milito and Holly Wade will conclude the webinar with LIVE Q&A to answer your PPP, ERC, FFCRA, and EIDL questions. You can submit your questions ahead of the webinar using the registration form so they can make sure to answer them.

Can’t make this webinar? Don’t worry! Register now and they’ll email you an on-demand version.

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Client Options for Claiming The Employee Retention Credit (ERC)

June 19, 2021 Nancy McClelland Leave a comment

Note to readers: the issue outlined below only applies to 50%-or-greater shareholders — which means the business is a corporation — and their spouses who work at the company. It does not apply to sole proprietors or partners — those two groups do not get paid via payroll and therefore are not eligible. Shareholders who own less than 50% are eligible if the business meets the other requirements to claim the credit.

If you are a 50%-or-greater shareholder and your company qualifies for the Employee Retention Credit for either 2020 or 2021, please read on.

I truly cannot believe that it’s June 2021 and I’m writing a blog post to help people choose the least-worst 2020 Employee Retention Credit interpretation — because even though the pandemic is starting to show in our rearview mirrors, we are still living in a universe totally devoid of IRS guidance on the topic of ERC shareholder eligibility. Accountants jokingly refer to this mystery as the Tax Advisers’ “Area 51” on #TaxTwitter.

What am I talking about? And why am I so annoyed? Let me set the scene:

1) Many small business owners are eligible retroactively for the 2020 Employee Retention Credit (ERC), and the IRS decided that the corresponding reduction in wages for that credit needs to be on the 2020 tax return.

2) However, the company’s Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) Forgiveness application needs to be prepared before calculating the amount of the ERC, in order to maximize the amount of financial relief the client receives between the two programs. Therefore, at our firm, these returns are all on extension while we run these calculations.

3) Now that the first round of PPP loans are nearing the end of the payment deferment period — and to be fair, we’re also only a few months away from the tax return extension deadline — we would like to finalize those calculations and returns. (Reminder: there is no “deadline” for applying for PPP Forgiveness — per the SBA, “borrowers can apply for forgiveness any time up to the maturity date of the loan. If borrowers do not apply for forgiveness within 10 months after the last day of the covered period, then PPP loan payments are no longer deferred, and borrowers will begin making loan payments to their PPP lender.”)

4) The catch is — that the IRS has still not released guidance on whether or not 50%+ owners of a corporation are eligible for the credit (or their spouses who work for the business). Accountants are split down the middle on what the existing legislation, which is extremely unclear, tells us on the topic. As such, we either need to take a position or continue to wait for IRS guidance.

What’s that? You’re saying the IRS has still not issued essential guidance on a credit that was created in the first month of the pandemic? Yes. Yes, I am.

Recently, both the AICPA and Tony Nitti, two of my most trusted sources, have weighed in on this with a big “why is the IRS dragging their heels on this” reaction. Nitti went as far as to say, “Are wages paid to greater than 50% owners eligible for the credit? If I had a nickel for every time someone emailed me this question, I could afford to stop shamelessly and relentlessly shilling this newsletter. It is absolutely amazing that a full year after the ERC was created, we still don’t have a definitive answer.”

Okay, enough backstory. As a small business owner, what are your options? I call them Choice 1 (yes) and Choice 2 (no) for short:

#1 Calculate ERC as if owners are eligible and file 2020 income tax returns accordingly. This would result in a higher tax for clients (because more wages are disallowed as deductions). Submit PPP Forgiveness applications, but hold off on submitting ERC claims (941-Xs) until guidance is released. If guidance indicates that owners are eligible, file the ERC claims accordingly. If guidance says owners are not eligible, then amend the income tax returns and file the ERC claims accordingly.

This approach may make the most sense when there are two 50%-owners on payroll, and not many other other staff — as the increased credit would be worth the wait, compared to the total credit without owners.

#2 Calculate ERC as if owners are not eligible and file 2020 income tax returns accordingly. This would result in a lower tax for clients (because fewer wages are disallowed as deductions). Submit PPP Forgiveness applications, and submit ERC claims (941-Xs) — rather than holding off on these as in the above option. If guidance is eventually released that indicates owners are not eligible, then no action is needed. If guidance indicates that owners are eligible, then decide whether it is worth amending the income tax returns and ERC claims to get the additional funds.

This approach may make the most sense with only one 50%+ owner and many employees, as the cost to amend all returns and claims will probably not be worth the additional credit.

The goal with both approaches is to get PPP Forgiveness applications and tax returns filed as soon as possible, with the best balance between wage deductions and potential wage credits.

While I was tempted to pick one of these two approaches and inform all clients of our choice, I decided — especially with advice from an AICPA Town Hall — that this is a decision that each client needs to make for themselves. We’re happy to explain the potential costs and benefits of each approach and make a personal recommendation for each client’s individual situation, but the decision should be theirs. We recommend other CPA firms take a similar approach.

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2020 Employee Retention Credit FAQ

June 18, 2021 Nancy McClelland Leave a comment

I recently received a few questions based on earlier blog posts, discussions with colleagues, and Slack conversations, and thought it might be helpful to readers to share them all here.

Q: I attended the Compass seminar you recommended and it was super-helpful. I noticed that she didn’t have anything on row 30 of her 941-X, but on the other example we discussed, there were Line 30 entries on her 941-X that was generated by Gusto. Should I have something on line 30?

A: The Compass seminar presenter made a couple mistakes and they issued corrected pdfs afterwards – if you took the course, make sure you have the file called “Corrected_Forms_941-X_for_Case_Study.pdf” to refer to as you are preparing amended 941s to claim the Employee Retention Credit.

The first correction was that column 4 on the 941-X should be negative (even though that math makes no sense on the face of the form).

The other correction was that Lines 30 and 31 are blank in their original examples and should have totals on them. In the seminar, they had entered amounts on the Worksheet 1, Step 3, Line 3a (and 3b if there was health insurance), but then I think they just forgot to also enter them on the face of the form. (In the Worksheet it says these numbers come from Form 941, Lines 21 & 22 – and those correspond to Form 941-X, Lines 30 & 31.)

We built our own Excel version of Worksheet 1 to make all these calculations easier — not hard to do: just copy the last page of the IRS Form 941 instructions, paste into Excel, and set it up to do the simple math. We also made the following notes in Step 3:
a) For Step 3a, “This data will come from the ERC spreadsheet Total Wages row 20 (make sure to add Q1 + Q2 when preparing Q2). Enter on 941-X line 30.”
b) For Step 3b, “This data will come from the ERC spreadsheet Total Benefits row 21 (make sure to add Q1 + Q2 when preparing Q2). Enter on 941-X line 31.”.
c) For Step 3d, “Enter on 941-X line 27 *make sure amount in column 4 is a negative.”
d) For Step 3h, “Enter on 941-X line 18 *make sure amount in column 4 is a negative.”
e) For Step 3i, “Enter on 941-X line 26 *make sure amount in column 4 is a negative.”

Q: Let’s say your PPP2 window is March 1 through August — it sounds like you’re not required to use wages from March 1-31 for your PPP2 forgiveness? You can take all of 1Q 2021 towards ERC and then use wages from April 1 and beyond for PPP2 forgiveness?

A: Yes, exactly – what we are doing in our firm is this: we calculate the minimum amount of wages + health insurance that are needed for PPP – and we use SUTA and retirement first, so that we use as few actual wage + health insurance dollars as possible (because ERC doesn’t use SUTA & retirement). That gives us a “target” that we use in our ERC calculations.

Then we assign wages + health insurance for the PPP period to each employee so as to maximize what’s left over for ERC. The difference has been really amazing, and worth the extra work.

So rather than picking wages to use for ERC based on which quarter they’re in to make it easier for filing, we’re picking them based on what maximizes the amount for ERC.

But the point is — that you can do it however you want, which was the second-to-last big piece of guidance I needed to make this system work to my clients’ advantage the most. (The other piece, whether 50%+ shareholder-EEs count for ERC, is something we’re still waiting on the IRS for. No one can believe they haven’t shared this yet.)

Follow-up question: Where did we land if we have to use every employee for the same duration for PPP forgiveness? So let’s say in the 24-week window you only need 13 weeks to get to forgiveness if you’re including everyone. Instead, could you use 3 employees for 24 weeks and then 2 employees for just 8 weeks (as an example off the top of my head). Or do you have to use all 5 employees for 13 weeks, or whatever it takes? Because in option 2, you’d have 3 extra weeks for the lower paid employees to use for ERC. If that makes sense what I’m asking.

A: There’s no requirement for PPP on a per-employee basis – it’s just a total dollar amount. Amazingly flexible. This analysis is accurate.

Q: The Compass presenter mentioned something about the more than 50% shareholder and whether those wages count. I’ve got two clients who have employee shareholders, and I hadn’t really considered this yet. Do I count their wages?

A: We don’t know! We’re helping clients decide what to do on a case-by-case basis, using this approach (I wrote this up for RRF but it’s still valid for anyone who’s left):
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Follow-up question: Regarding the Shareholder wages— Let me see if I understand it. I have a C-corp where one employee was the founder and basically has 90% of the stock. Is it a question as to whether he counts? And his wife works there as well. So it sounds like either way I cannot include her? Another employee has 10% of the stock. So he counts for sure, right?

A: The 10% employee counts for sure, and we don’t know about the 90% C-corp owner or the spouse that works there, which is why I’m making my clients choose Option 1 or 2 in the blog post I referenced. By coincidence, they reiterated in today’s AICPA Town Hall that we still don’t freaking know the answer here.

Q: What date do I date the JE for “ERC Receivable”? Is it the last date of the quarter for that 941X? (Rather than the date I send the amendment.)

A: Yes, because the IRS decided to be massive jerks and require this to be subtracted from deductible wages in the year of the payroll, rather than the year of the amendment, even for cash-basis tax filers.

Personal rant: after the past two tax seasons, have to admit that I hate Chuck Rettig with a passion.

Q: So if I do form 941Xs, do I need to also send 7200s? Or is that an either/or situation? We definitely want refunds (not just applying refund towards future payments.)

A: No, the Form 7200 is only for advance payments — you would file it to get an advance payment of the refund before the end of the quarter in which you qualify. Once the quarter ends, you claim the credit on the Form 941, and reconcile the amount you’ve already applied to receive in advance. By all accounts I’ve heard, it’s not worth the trouble.

Q: Finally–if I do the 941x’s myself, then do I need to notify that particular payroll company what I’ve done?

A: Not according to Gusto, because it only affects the cash paid, not the liabilities or reported amounts. It’s treated as an overpayment that will be refunded, so it doesn’t change things on their end — but I’m not sure about other payroll companies.

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Restaurant Revitalization Fund: Client Options for Tax & ERC Filings

April 9, 2021 Nancy McClelland Leave a comment

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The Restaurant Revitalization Fund (RRF) is a grant calculated by subtracting 2020 revenue from 2019 revenue to calculate the total drop between the two years — presumably caused by the Covid-19 pandemic. To substantiate the amount of the revenue decrease between 2019 and 2020, the SBA will be requesting tax returns for both years. There are other documents that will be acceptable, but the way to get the application through the system as quickly as possible – processed by computers rather than slowed down by human review – is to use tax returns.

The issue is that many restaurants are also eligible retroactively for the 2020 Employee Retention Credit (ERC), and the IRS has recently ordered that the corresponding reduction in wages for that credit needs to be on the 2020 tax return. However, the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) Forgiveness applications need to be prepared before calculating the amount of the ERC, in order to maximize the amount of financial relief the client receives between the two programs. Therefore, at our firm, these returns are all on extension while we run these calculations.

Now that the RRF is about to open – possibly as soon as the third week of April – we would like to finalize those calculations and returns, but the catch is that the IRS has still not released guidance on whether or not 50%+ owners of a business are eligible for the credit. Accountants are split down the middle on what the existing legislation, which is extremely unclear, tells us on the topic. As such, we either need to take a position or wait for IRS guidance.

(In the past two days, both the AICPA and Tony Nitti, two of my most trusted sources, have weighed in on this with a big “why is the IRS dragging their heels on this” reaction. Nitti went as far as to say, “Are wages paid to greater than 50% owners eligible for the credit? If I had a nickel for every time someone emailed me this question, I could afford to stop shamelessly and relentlessly shilling this newsletter. It is absolutely amazing that a full year after the ERC was created, we still don’t have a definitive answer.”)

So the options are:

#1 Calculate ERC as if owners are eligible and file 2020 income tax returns accordingly. This would result in a higher tax for clients (because more wages are disallowed as deductions). Submit PPP Forgiveness applications, but hold off on submitting ERC claims (941-Xs) until guidance is released. If guidance indicates that owners are eligible, file the ERC claims accordingly. If guidance says owners are not eligible, then amend the income tax returns and file the ERC claims accordingly.

#2 Calculate ERC as if owners are not eligible and file 2020 income tax returns accordingly. This would result in a lower tax for clients (because fewer wages are disallowed as deductions). Submit PPP Forgiveness applications, and submit ERC claims (941-Xs) — rather than holding off on these as in the above option. If guidance is eventually released that indicates owners are not eligible, then no action is needed. If guidance indicates that owners are eligible, then decide whether it is worth amending the income tax returns and ERC claims to get the additional funds.

This approach may make the most sense with only one 50%+ owner and many employees, as the cost to amend all returns and claims will probably not be worth the additional credit.

To clarify, neither approach will hold up the RRF or cause a smaller amount to be awarded, because ERC is not considered income (that’s why the wages they pay for cannot be deducted). The goal with both approaches is to get tax returns ready for the RRF application as soon as possible, with the best balance between wage deductions and potential wage credits.

While I was tempted to pick one of these two approaches and inform all clients of our choice, I decided — especially with advice from the AICPA Town Hall yesterday — that this is a decision that each client needs to make for themselves. We’re happy to explain the potential costs and benefits of each approach and make a personal recommendation for each client’s individual situation, but the decision should be theirs. We recommend other CPA firms take a similar approach.

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