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How To Apply for PPP Forgiveness (Loans $150K Or Less; No Employees) Using Biz2Credit

Screenshot from Biz2Credit forgiveness process.

Note: this is an update to an existing blog post — the instructions below are specific to the Biz2Credit PPP lending platform. If you received your loan through another platform, please see my original post.

For over a year we waited for legislation from Congress as well as guidance from both the SBA and IRS as to the interplay between the Employee Retention Credit (ERC) and the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP). It appears the last of that guidance was issued on August 10, 2021 — so, at this point, as long as you have worked out the interplay between PPP and the Employee Retention Credit (ERC), then you should go ahead and apply. Which means that if you are a sole proprietor and have no employees, you are ready to apply — since ERC is only an issue if you have W-2 employees or are a W-2 employee of your own company.

For PPP draws in 2021, our firm participated in a joint program by AICPA and Biz2Credit called the “CPA Loan Portal”. We’ve prepared the following step-by-step instructions for clients of ours who were funded through this system — however, I believe the instructions are the same for small business owners who applied directly with Biz2Credit. (Let us know in the comments if this is the case or if you had to tweak the approach at all.)

First, a couple general comments for borrowers of $150k or less who are self-employed with no employees:

  • For self-employed with no employees, it’s an “owner compensation replacement” approach, which means you will have 2.5 months’ worth of your prior-year net profit (or gross profit, for those who applied for PPP funding under the last-minute changes to the rules) automatically forgiven. Your forgiveness amount should exactly equal your loan amount, presuming the original loan was calculated properly.
  • According to Biz2Credit on their July 1 webinar (from their PPP Forgiveness Required Documents Customer Guidebook), no documentation is required for sole proprietors with loans of $150k or less:

How-To Instructions for PPP Forgiveness – AICPA Biz2Credit Application – Self-Employed with No Employees

First things first, decide whether you’d like to fill out the forgiveness application yourself or whether you’d like your CPA firm to do it for you for a small fee. Once you’ve informed them that you’d like to DIY, they will need to “assign” the forgiveness application to you, which will trigger an email that looks something like this:

Once you log in to your account using the credentials you created when you signed the PPP draw application just before getting funded, you’ll be walked through a series of screens.

Click the “Apply for Loan Forgiveness” button.

Most of the information will be automatically filled in based on the initial loan application information. There is no need to enter information in any of the fields marked “(Optional)”. Click the “Confirm” button.

A pop-up should suggest you use the 3508-S application, the simplest one – click the Continue button to go to the Basic PPP Loan Information screen.

Covered Period Start Date should default to the disbursement date as the start date. The duration of the covered period can be anywhere from 8-to-24 weeks; if the applicant is self-employed with no employees, we suggest a 10-week period. The end-date will auto-fill.

Most of the information will fill in automatically, but you will have to note the number of employees at the time of the forgiveness application – for self-employed with no employees, the answer is 1.

For a self-employed person with no employees, the Amount of Loan Spent on Payroll Costs should be the full amount of the PPP loan.

Click the green “Next” button on the lower-right corner to continue.

A pop-up will come up – read and click “Accept & Continue” if you agree.

You should get a screen confirming the form was completed and letting you know they have sent an email with a link to Docusign the application. Do not click the “Continue” button until you sign the application. Open your email program in a separate tab to find the email from Biz2Credit Contract Support via Docusign, with the subject, “Biz2Credit : PPP Loan Forgiveness Application Form 3508S”. Keep in mind that it may be in the “Promotions” or “Updates” tab, or in Spam.

Click the orange “Review Document” button in the email.

The Docusign document should open in a separate tab – you may need to allow it to access your location.

Checkmark the agreement and click “Continue”.

Click the “Start” button and follow the guidelines to initial twice and then sign the form. Click the “Finish” button when you are done. Save a copy for your own records.

Go back to the Biz2Credit tab and click “Continue” (if you accidentally closed the tab, please go to the Biz2Credit site and log in again). It is essential that you click the “Continue” button to submit the application.

Click “Ok” on the pop-up. This will take you back to the dashboard – at the bottom, instead of the “Apply for Loan Forgiveness” button, you should see two links: View Submission and View Documents. There is no need to click on these at this point, but seeing them is reassurance that your application has in fact been submitted.

(If you did not download the form after Docusigning, then you can do it at this point, by clicking “View Documents”. It will then take you to a screen with a long list of possible documents – the top link (“E-signed 3508”) allows you to download a pdf of the e-signed document for your records.)

You will receive two more emails from Biz2Credit: 1) an email via Docusign allowing you to view or download the completed document (which at this point you’ve already done); and, 2) a confirmation that your loan forgiveness application is being sent to the SBA.

Now sit tight and await a confirmation email from Biz2Credit once the SBA has forgiven the loan – please make sure to forward this to your CPA firm… and congratulations!

Note: Even though no documentation for loans under $150k is required, occasionally there will be a follow-up email from Biz2Credit requesting certain items. Please forward to your CPA firm if this occurs and they will advise (and they’ll inform your Biz2Credit lending rep that this step should not be required).

For self-employed folks with no employees, the PPP Forgiveness process is very straightforward. Please let us know in the comments if you come across challenges, so others can learn from your experiences — especially for those who applied directly with Biz2Credit instead of through your CPA. Best of luck to you all!


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How To Apply For PPP Forgiveness (Loans Over $150K, Non-ERC-Eligible Companies)

From the PPP forgiveness guide at – https://bench.co/blog/operations/ppp-loan-forgiveness/

For over a year I’ve been answering the question, “when should we apply for PPP Loan Forgiveness?” And for over a year I’ve been responding, “not yet; there’s still so much that’s up in the air” — as AICPA (thankfully) recommended we wait for legislation from Congress as well as guidance from both the SBA and IRS.

Well, on June 24th, they gave us the green light in the AICPA Town Hall Series. Lisa Simpson said that if you have worked out the interplay between PPP and the Employee Retention Credit (ERC), then you should go ahead and apply.

This means that if you are a sole proprietor or partnership and have no employees, you are ready to apply — since ERC is only an issue if you have W-2 employees or are a W-2 employee of your own company. See my recent blog post for easy instructions.

It also means that if you have employees (or are an employee yourself), but you know that your company does not qualify for ERC, you are ready to apply. See below for less-than-easy but still DIY-worthy instructions.

(Of course, this means that if you qualify for ERC and haven’t worked out the interplay yet, you should consider holding off for now — consider using my recommended approach to moving forward with PPP Forgiveness without jeopardizing ERC, highlighted in a recent blog post.)

So… now what?

For borrowers of more than $150k who had no wage or FTE reductions, or who qualify for a safe harbor/exemption:

  • As your loan was higher than $150k, you do not qualify to file the simplest PPP Forgiveness form (3508S). However, presuming you followed all the rules and had no reductions, you do qualify for the “EZ” form (3508EZ). Please make sure your lender allows you to use this approach. For reference, here is the forgiveness application form (pages 1-4) and instructions – but for the actual forgiveness process, instead of filling the form out, you will apply through your lender’s loan portal and it will walk you through the steps. Please carefully read through the checklist and instructions on pages 5-9.
  • Please also read through this Form 3508EZ Step-by-Step guide before beginning the process at your lender’s portal, as the questions you will be asked mirror the actual application.
  • Some important tips when going through the process:
    • Have your original PPP loan application and loan documents handy so you can make sure the info on your forgiveness application matches it exactly (legal name, DBA, address, NAICS code, EIN/SSN, loan number, number of employees at time of loan application).
    • Number of employees at time of loan application and forgiveness application are both simple head-counts, not FTEs or full- vs. part-time or anything else.
    • Covered Period is the date you received the funds through 24 weeks later, unless you determined a shorter period would be advantageous.
    • We recommend the “Amount of Loan Spent on Payroll Costs” total is not any higher than the minimum needed for forgiveness.
    • “Requested Loan Forgiveness Amount” should be the exact full total of your PPP Loan.
    • If you were unable to operate at full capacity, you may check the second box on the checklist, which means there is no requirement to fulfill the FTE (full-time equivalent) test.

Regarding backup documentation that you must submit with your application, keep in mind that what is considered acceptable support is up to each individual lender.
 – Payroll: your lender may ask you for bank account statements, payroll tax form 941s, and canceled checks for benefit invoices as proof of payment.
 – Nonpayroll: For rent/mortgage/utilities payments, your lender may ask for documentation that the obligation/services existed prior to 2/15/2020. They are likely to ask for proof of payment for all amounts claimed in this section.

If there is any concern that you might not have fulfilled the wage reduction or FTE tests, or that you do not meet a safe harbor or exemption for them, we strongly suggest working with a trusted advisor to prepare your PPP Forgiveness application, as it gets extremely complicated. Our approach, to be safe, has been to download the free Form 3508 PPP Forgiveness Calculator from the AICPA, regardless of which form you qualify to submit, so as to run all the numbers for the wage reduction test, and fill out the information to see if you are exempt from the FTE test or not. If you are not exempt, the AICPA also offers a free FTE calculator. We then suggest you retain these files as backup in case of audit, even if you end up passing all the tests and qualifying to submit a simpler form than the full 3508.


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How To Apply for PPP Forgiveness (Loans $150K Or Less, No Employees/ Non-ERC-Eligible Companies)

From the PPP forgiveness guide at – https://bench.co/blog/operations/ppp-loan-forgiveness/

For over a year I’ve been answering the question, “when should we apply for PPP Loan Forgiveness?” And for over a year I’ve been responding, “not yet; there’s still so much that’s up in the air” — as AICPA (thankfully) recommended we wait for legislation from Congress as well as guidance from both the SBA and IRS.

Well, on June 24th, they gave us the green light in the AICPA Town Hall Series. Lisa Simpson said that if you have worked out the interplay between PPP and the Employee Retention Credit (ERC), then you should go ahead and apply.

This means that if you are a sole proprietor or partnership and have no employees, you are ready to apply — since ERC is only an issue if you have W-2 employees or are a W-2 employee of your own company.

(Of course, this means that if you do qualify for ERC and you haven’t worked out the interplay yet, you should consider holding off for now — consider using my recommended approach to moving forward with PPP Forgiveness without jeopardizing ERC, highlighted in a recent blog post.)

So… now what?

For borrowers of $150k or less who are self-employed with no employees:

  • For self-employed with no employees, it’s an “owner compensation replacement” approach, which means you will have 2.5 months’ worth of your 2019 net profit automatically forgiven. That is why the form is so simple. Your forgiveness amount should exactly equal your loan amount, presuming the original loan was calculated properly.
  • For reference, here is the forgiveness application form – but most lenders will have you actually apply through their own loan portal, which will walk you through the process. Just be clear that you are a self-employed individual with no employees, that your loan was $150k or less, and so you qualify for Form 3508S.
  • The best instructions I’ve read are here: How to complete Form 3508S for Self-Employed Individuals with no Employees | SCORE
  • It should not matter how long you select for your covered period — anywhere between 8 and 24 weeks — but the first- and second-draws cannot overlap (your first loan covered period must be short enough that it ends before your second loan covered period starts).
  • You can indicate that you spent the entire loan on payroll.
  • Have your original PPP loan application and loan documents handy so you can make sure the info on your forgiveness application matches it exactly (legal name, DBA, address, NAICS code, EIN/SSN, loan number, number of employees at time of loan application).

And according to AICPA Funding Partner, Biz2Credit, on today’s July 1 webinar (from their PPP Forgiveness Required Documents Customer Guidebook):

(This had been the case for all the lenders I’ve seen so far, but the jury seemed to still be out for some of them, including Biz2Credit — so this was a relief.)

For self-employed folks with no employees, the PPP Forgiveness process should be very straightforward, from everything I’ve seen so far. Please let me know in the comments if you come across challenges, so others can learn from your experiences. Best of luck to you all!


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Client Options for Claiming The Employee Retention Credit (ERC)

Note to readers: the issue outlined below only applies to 50%-or-greater shareholders — which means the business is a corporation — and their spouses who work at the company. It does not apply to sole proprietors or partners — those two groups do not get paid via payroll and therefore are not eligible. Shareholders who own less than 50% are eligible if the business meets the other requirements to claim the credit.

If you are a 50%-or-greater shareholder and your company qualifies for the Employee Retention Credit for either 2020 or 2021, please read on.


I truly cannot believe that it’s June 2021 and I’m writing a blog post to help people choose the least-worst 2020 Employee Retention Credit interpretation — because even though the pandemic is starting to show in our rearview mirrors, we are still living in a universe totally devoid of IRS guidance on the topic of ERC shareholder eligibility. Accountants jokingly refer to this mystery as the Tax Advisers’ “Area 51” on #TaxTwitter.

What am I talking about? And why am I so annoyed? Let me set the scene:

1) Many small business owners are eligible retroactively for the 2020 Employee Retention Credit (ERC), and the IRS decided that the corresponding reduction in wages for that credit needs to be on the 2020 tax return.

2) However, the company’s Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) Forgiveness application needs to be prepared before calculating the amount of the ERC, in order to maximize the amount of financial relief the client receives between the two programs. Therefore, at our firm, these returns are all on extension while we run these calculations.

3) Now that the first round of PPP loans are nearing the end of the payment deferment period — and to be fair, we’re also only a few months away from the tax return extension deadline — we would like to finalize those calculations and returns. (Reminder: there is no “deadline” for applying for PPP Forgiveness — per the SBA, “borrowers can apply for forgiveness any time up to the maturity date of the loan. If borrowers do not apply for forgiveness within 10 months after the last day of the covered period, then PPP loan payments are no longer deferred, and borrowers will begin making loan payments to their PPP lender.”)

4) The catch is — that the IRS has still not released guidance on whether or not 50%+ owners of a corporation are eligible for the credit (or their spouses who work for the business). Accountants are split down the middle on what the existing legislation, which is extremely unclear, tells us on the topic. As such, we either need to take a position or continue to wait for IRS guidance.

What’s that? You’re saying the IRS has still not issued essential guidance on a credit that was created in the first month of the pandemic? Yes. Yes, I am.

Recently, both the AICPA and Tony Nitti, two of my most trusted sources, have weighed in on this with a big “why is the IRS dragging their heels on this” reaction. Nitti went as far as to say, “Are wages paid to greater than 50% owners eligible for the credit? If I had a nickel for every time someone emailed me this question, I could afford to stop shamelessly and relentlessly shilling this newsletter. It is absolutely amazing that a full year after the ERC was created, we still don’t have a definitive answer.”

Okay, enough backstory. As a small business owner, what are your options? I call them Choice 1 (yes) and Choice 2 (no) for short:

  • #1 Calculate ERC as if owners are eligible and file 2020 income tax returns accordingly. This would result in a higher tax for clients (because more wages are disallowed as deductions). Submit PPP Forgiveness applications, but hold off on submitting ERC claims (941-Xs) until guidance is released. If guidance indicates that owners are eligible, file the ERC claims accordingly. If guidance says owners are not eligible, then amend the income tax returns and file the ERC claims accordingly.

This approach may make the most sense when there are two 50%-owners on payroll, and not many other other staff — as the increased credit would be worth the wait, compared to the total credit without owners.

  • #2 Calculate ERC as if owners are not eligible and file 2020 income tax returns accordingly. This would result in a lower tax for clients (because fewer wages are disallowed as deductions). Submit PPP Forgiveness applications, and submit ERC claims (941-Xs) — rather than holding off on these as in the above option. If guidance is eventually released that indicates owners are not eligible, then no action is needed. If guidance indicates that owners are eligible, then decide whether it is worth amending the income tax returns and ERC claims to get the additional funds.

This approach may make the most sense with only one 50%+ owner and many employees, as the cost to amend all returns and claims will probably not be worth the additional credit.

The goal with both approaches is to get PPP Forgiveness applications and tax returns filed as soon as possible, with the best balance between wage deductions and potential wage credits.

While I was tempted to pick one of these two approaches and inform all clients of our choice, I decided — especially with advice from an AICPA Town Hall — that this is a decision that each client needs to make for themselves. We’re happy to explain the potential costs and benefits of each approach and make a personal recommendation for each client’s individual situation, but the decision should be theirs. We recommend other CPA firms take a similar approach.


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Tips To Maximize 2020 Employee Retention Credit (ERC) & PPP Interaction

I recently wrote about reasons to hold off on Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) forgiveness applications for the time being. Among them is the complex interaction between PPP and the Employee Retention Credit (ERC), which previously was not permitted as an option for financial relief for those that had received PPP funding.

Because ERC is now available for small businesses who have accepted PPP funds — but not for the same payroll dollars (no double-dipping) — there are some pretty complicated calculations that, if done right, could generate a great deal of financial relief to a lot of independent business-owners in need.

The IRS came out with guidance on March 1. The Journal of Accountancy summarizes:

The notice explains (1) who are eligible employers; (2) what constitutes full or partial suspension of trade or business operations; (3) what is a significant decline in gross receipts; (4) what is the maximum amount of an eligible employer’s employee retention credit; (5) qualified wages; (6) how an eligible employer claims the employee retention credit; and (7) how an eligible employer substantiates the claim for the credit.

Summary of the 2020 Employee Retention Credit

As a reminder, the 2020 ERC is a payroll tax credit available to business owners whose operations have been fully or partially suspended by government order, or who have seen a drop in income of more than 50% compared to the same quarter in the previous year. (Note: in the new IRS guidance it also states that if “the business’s suppliers are unable to make deliveries of critical goods or materials due to a governmental order”, your business may be eligible for ERC — even though there was no governmental order in your area.)

The credit comprises 50% of up to $10,000 in wages to each employee. The credit cannot be taken on wages that were paid for by PPP funds — but as long as there is no double-dipping, PPP recipients can claim other wages for the purpose of ERC.

The ERC is claimed as a reduction of payroll taxes on quarterly Form 941 (or a prepaid refund on Form 7200). The IRS updated the form on July 1, and a handy breakdown of the new lines can be found here. There are different rules for eligible businesses to be able to claim the 2021 ERC moving forward — a topic for another day — but this post concerns the opportunity to “scoop up” payroll dollars from 2020 that would have been eligible for ERC had it not been for the PPP Loan. These can be claimed by filing an amended Form 941 for each relevant quarter.

Keep in mind that the ERC is complex, and this blog post will not walk you through the specifics — I’ve included a list of some of my favorite resources below. The goal here is to share the steps in our firm’s approach toward these calculations for our clients.

So let’s start with a couple of things to be aware of before we go through the steps that my firm plans to walk through come May/June.

  1. First, the ERC is not generally as valuable as the PPP. It is a payroll tax credit, rather than actual cash funding (though you can file for an advance on it).
  2. And the ERC did not get the benefit of having Congress declare its related expenses deductible, like the special treatment that PPP costs received. So you will lose all the deductions for the payroll tax dollars on which you receive the credit. Deductions aren’t worth as much as credits, so you still come out ahead. But if you’re choosing PPP or ERC for a given payroll dollar, you want to pick the PPP first — up to the minimum 60% requirement for that loan to be forgiven.
  3. However, once you’ve reached that 60% requirement, if you can use non-payroll costs for the remaining 40%, then you “free up” the rest of the payroll dollars to be used for ERC. So you’ll want to work on PPP1 forgiveness applications at the same time as 2020 ERC calculations — they are related to each other, and changing one will potentially affect the other.
  4. But what does this mean for companies filing income tax returns for 2020? Businesses that later decide to retroactively claim the ERC will need to file amended income tax returns — or preferably, put their income tax returns on extension until they have claimed the ERC for 2020. We had previously thought that cash-basis filers could potentially claim the income for the credit and the associated reduction in payroll costs on the 2021 income tax return, but that was ruled out with the most recent IRS guidance.

Steps to Evaluate Payroll for PPP vs ERC

The hope is that in most cases you’ll be able to do Steps One and Two and skip the rest. But just in case, Steps Three and Four will take you the rest of the way there.

Step One
When figuring out how to combine ERC and PPP, literally make a calendar for each client and work from that.

a) Determine dates for which you qualify for ERC, based on either:
– the full or partial shut-down period, or
– a gross receipts decline of 50% over the same quarter in 2019
(the latter qualifies you from the beginning of that quarter to the end of the quarter where receipts go back up to 80%)

Keep in mind that both scenarios may apply, but for different periods — for example, the business was shut down on 3/18/20, and then later fully reopened… and then the 50% revenue drop started in the following quarter.

Note: you may want to find out the exact dates that your client’s city/county/state decreed full-capacity indoor dining was illegal — for those dates, restaurants qualify for ERC based on “full/partial shut-down” rules. If your client is a gym, bar, or other type of non-essential business that had hours limited, find out the exact full-or-partial shut-down dates decreed for that industry in that specific area.

b) Determine PPP covered period. For most folks, this will be the 24 weeks starting on the date of loan fund disbursement.

c) Determine the “bookend” periods — the time both before and after the PPP covered period; for the timeframe when the client qualified for ERC but was not in the PPP realm.

Step Two
You may be able to skip the rest of the steps by eyeballing whether you’re able to claim the entire 2020 ERC of $5k per employee (on the first 10k paid to each) all in one quarter — for most businesses this would usually be the final quarter of the year. Then, not only will you not have to worry about overlapping PPP and ERC payroll dollars, but you also will be able to claim this through most payroll companies and not have to manually amend the 4Q 2020 Form 941. Double-bonus!

If not, then see if you can get the full $5k per employee ERC (again, on the first 10k paid to each) using only the periods before and after the PPP1 covered period. You at least eliminate the need to juggle the PPP payroll dollars along with the ERC payroll dollars during the covered period.

Step Three
If that’s not an option — if you can’t get to the full 10k within the bookend periods — then:

Before you work on PPP1 forgiveness, subtract whatever the 2020 unallocated ERC balance is after Step 2 (not to exceed 10k of wages per employee) from the payroll amounts during the PPP covered period — before putting numbers in the forgiveness application, just to make sure you can still get full forgiveness at this rate. This is just a “gut check” to see if you can eliminate the need to run the actual ERC calculations for the PPP covered period.

If so, then go ahead and take ERC on the difference, even if you haven’t figured out the specifics of your PPP1 forgiveness yet.

Step 4
If you can’t get full forgiveness on PPP1 at this rate, then go ahead and fill out the PPP1 application in full, using only 60% of the PPP funds to allocate payroll.

Then see how many payroll dollars are “left over” to be used for ERC.

And remember that you can use payroll from employees who made over $100k annually for ERC during the PPP period — because those dollars are not eligible for PPP (due to rules and limitations specific to that program), but they are eligible for ERC.

You can also count — for ERC purposes — dollars that were above 60% of the PPP loan, and therefore are not needed for forgiveness (presuming the business has sufficient eligible costs to make up the 40% “non-payroll” portion of PPP forgiveness).

Think of it this way: you are effectively reducing the ERC subtraction amount per-employee from PPP forgiveness until you get to full PPP forgiveness… and taking 2020 ERC on the balance (since as I mentioned before, the PPP payroll dollars are more tax-advantaged than the ERC dollars).

Does this four-step process sound easy? No! It’s not. It may not in fact be worth it for most small business clients to pay a professional to scoop up the remaining piddly amounts in the PPP covered period — in which case, consider just using Steps One and Two: the amounts in the bookend periods, or even better, just the amount from the final quarter (because that way they don’t have to pay you to manually prepare a 4Q Form 941, either).

But reviewing this approach before going in and working on all the client ERC and PPP calculations should help a great deal in identifying where the bulk of the payroll dollars are that will qualify for the ERC program, and will allow you to make intelligent decisions about which periods to mine for this type of financial relief for your small business clients.

Resources

For a wonderful in-depth explanation of the Employee Retention Tax Credit, please see Tony Nitti’s two-part Forbes article:
– Breaking Down Changes To The Employee Retention Tax Credit In The New Covid Relief Bill, Part 1
– Breaking Down The Changes To The Employee Retention Credit In The New COVID Relief Bill, Part 2
– Part 2 also links to an earlier article of his that goes through the details of calculating the ERC according to the 2020 rules.

KBKG is offering a free one-hour webinar on March 17:
Employee Retention Tax Credits: Qualifications, Benefits & Refunds (kbkg.com)
–This is the same firm that offers the free 2021 ERC estimator calculator.

The three paid courses I’ve taken so far that were the most valuable were:
Tom Gorczynski‘s Employee Retention Credit Update, which included an Excel Calculation Template.
AICPA – The NEW Employee Retention Credit: More for Eligible Employers
NATP (natptax.com) – Calculating the Earned Income Credit


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Why You Should Still Hold Off on PPP1 Forgiveness Applications

Many clients and colleagues have reached out to me over the past two months to ask whether they should apply for PPP1 forgiveness yet, and my answer (and that of the AICPA) is still “not quite yet”. But rather than just pushing off the question of “but when” into the future, I wanted to publicly share our company’s strategy and timeline for handling these applications.

The deadline to apply for Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) forgiveness is 10 months after the end of the covered period — which for most folks for the first round was 24-weeks — so that wouldn’t be until sometime in July 2021 for the earliest borrowers. (It’s not really a deadline, but it’s the date on which the lender will start requiring loan payments, so I think of it as one.)

We’re planning to dedicate May & June 2021 to working through all our existing clients’ PPP forgiveness applications. There are many clarifications we’re still waiting for (they keep dribbling out of Congress, IRS, and the SBA bit by bit, with occasional leaps), and the interaction between the PPP and other types of financial relief is complex.

In particular, the rules surrounding the 2020 Employee Retention Credit — which until recently was not an option for PPP borrowers — are vague and complex, even with the recent IRS Notice and FAQ. Furthermore, most payroll companies have not figured out how to collect the information and prepare the 4th-quarter Form 941 forms for partial quarters, and we may end up having to file some ERC requests manually. (Don’t get me started on this one.)

An example of how the changing rules affect applications: the EIDL advance grant was previously supposed to be subtracted from PPP forgiveness; but by asking our clients to wait on their forgiveness applications, they were able to take advantage of a December 2020 change that removes this requirement, saving them many thousands of dollars. (Though thankfully, it sounds like SBA will eventually refund those amounts to businesses who applied before this new rule went into effect.)

As if these reasons weren’t enough, in a recent on-demand AICPA Town Hall, they mentioned that:
– Most lenders are not actively taking forgiveness applications because their teams are focused on administering PPP2.
– SBA is working very slowly on forgiveness process because they are also focused on PPP2.
– The new simplified form for $150k and under will not be worked into the SBA system until sometime in March.

Between the constantly-changing rules for PPP and the guidance and calculations needed for ERC, we’re still following the recommendation of the AICPA and asking folks to hold off on PPP1 forgiveness applications, until tax season is behind us all and the IRS can focus on the remaining questions, allowing us to be methodical and consistent in our approach.

There’s no reason to be nervous about holding off on forgiveness — of the one-third of PPP loans that have been submitted for forgiveness, fully 99% of the loan dollars have been forgiven. The very small amount that have not are small loans at only 1% interest. Furthermore, by waiting you are giving your business the best chance at maximizing other types of financial relief, especially as the new Biden-Harris administration is in the process of changing rules to make them more attainable for a larger number of the smallest businesses out there, as well as Congress creating new funding opportunities.

(For tips on planning for the potential Employee Retention Credit, see my next blog post.)


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How To Apply For The Paycheck Protection Program – FREE Step-By-Step Webinar With Slides & Links

This past Wednesday, February 17th 2021, I was honored once again to participate in State Representative Will Guzzardi’s FREE Facebook Live series designed to help his constituents — and anyone else who wants to tune in — to learn about financial relief during Covid-19.

We did an entire hour-long session on how to determine eligibility and apply for the current round of the Paycheck Protection Program, which is designed to be open through March 31, 2021 or until funds run out.

The full-length webinar is FREE, as are the slides, resources and links to walk you through the application process. Additionally, a PDF version of the slides is available for download here:

We covered the following topics:
1) Paycheck Protection Program Summary
2) Current Program Overview
3) Eligibility
4) How To Apply
5) Where To Apply
6) Forgiveness Basics
7) Resources & Questions

Please share far and wide to help small business owners learn about the current status of the Paycheck Protection Program and how they can determine eligibility and apply for a non-taxable forgivable loan to help their companies stay afloat during these challenging times.


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The Dancing Accountant Presents: FREE PPP Webinar 2/17/21 6 PM Central

I am proud to be participating in State Representative Will Guzzardi’s FREE Facebook Live series designed to help his constituents — and anyone else who wants to tune in — to learn about financial relief during Covid-19.

We’ll be doing a session on how to determine eligibility and apply for the current round of the Paycheck Protection Program, which is designed to be open through March 31, 2021 or until funds run out.

I’ll cover the following topics:
1) Paycheck Protection Program Summary
2) Current Program Overview
3) Eligibility
4) How To Apply
5) Where To Apply
6) Forgiveness Basics
7) Resources & Questions

Slides will be available through Rep. Guzzardi’s office by request, and I will link to a recording here on my blog.

As an exciting bonus, the webinar will be translated into Spanish, by the talented Elsa Prado. She was kind enough to invite me as a guest on her Spanish-language show Alas de Amor this past Saturday — and I managed to pull off about 85% of it without resorting to English, though she was kind enough to expertly translate when I did.

In either language, please join us to learn about the current status of the Paycheck Protection Program and how you can determine eligibility and apply for a non-taxable forgivable loan to help your business stay afloat during these challenging times.


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PPP2 Guidance & Forms Are Here – Program to Open Week of January 11

Three weeks ago today I said it was coming — and it’s here!

Today, SBA and Treasury announced the reopening of the PPP program:

Initially only community financial institutions will be able to make First Draw PPP Loans on Monday, January 11, and Second Draw PPP Loans on Wednesday, January 13.  The PPP will open to all participating lenders shortly thereafter.

Updated PPP guidance outlining Program changes to enhance its effectiveness and accessibility was released on January 6 in accordance with the Economic Aid to Hard-Hit Small Businesses, Non-Profits, and Venues Act.

Key PPP updates include (underlines are mine):

  • PPP borrowers can set their PPP loan’s covered period to be any length between 8 and 24 weeks to best meet their business needs;
  • PPP loans will cover additional expenses, including operations expenditures, property damage costs, supplier costs, and worker protection expenditures;
  • The Program’s eligibility is expanded to include 501(c)(6)s, housing cooperatives, destination marketing organizations, among other types of organizations;
  • The PPP provides greater flexibility for seasonal employees;
  • Certain existing PPP borrowers can request to modify their First Draw PPP Loan amount; and
  • Certain existing PPP borrowers are now eligible to apply for a Second Draw PPP Loan. 

A borrower is generally eligible for a Second Draw PPP Loan if the borrower:

  • Previously received a First Draw PPP Loan and will or has used the full amount only for authorized uses;
  • Has no more than 300 employees; and
  • Can demonstrate at least a 25% reduction in gross receipts between comparable quarters in 2019 and 2020. (Updated since to provide an option for annual comparison for those without quarterly records.)

The guidance included two interim final rules (IFRs).

  • The 82-page IFR “Business Loan Program Temporary Changes; Paycheck Protection Program as Amended” consolidates the rules for PPP forgivable loans for first-time borrowers and outlines changes made by the Economic Aid to Hard-Hit Small Businesses, Nonprofits, and Venues Act, P.L. 116-260.
  • The 42-page IFR “Business Loan Program Temporary Changes; Paycheck Protection Program Second Draw Loans” lays out the guidelines for new PPP loans to businesses that previously received a PPP loan.

In addition, the SBA released a three-page “Guidance on Accessing Capital for Minority, Underserved, Veteran and Women-Owned Business Concerns.” That guidance includes a commitment from the SBA to make at least the first two days of the PPP application window open exclusively to applications from community financial institutions that serve minority- and women-owned businesses.

AICPA Firm Services Vice President Lisa Simpson got up at 5 am on the morning the SBA guidance was released, and was ready by 3 pm — slide deck and all — to share it with us on the AICPA Town Hall. The hour-long episode is free and available to the public — it’s all excellent, but her presentation in the first half-hour will give you almost everything you need to know. I’ll attempt to summarize it here, but honestly… you’re doing yourself a favor to sit down and watch it.

Here’s a summary of what I consider to be the highlights:

  • New application Form 2483-SD released Friday night, January 8th!
    (You heard it here first.)
  • SBA program will open January 11, in phases, as outlined above (minority-owned businesses were the last to receive assistance first-time around).
  • March 31st is last day to apply for PPP (first- or second-round).
  • For payroll costs used in calculating the loan amount (x 2.5 months, or x 3.5 for the hospitality industry, including restaurants), one can use:
    a) 2019, b) 2020, or c) 12-months’ prior to application.
  • Borrowers that want a 2nd PPP must show a 25% quarterly revenue loss in any quarter of 2020 compared to the same quarter in 2019 (or annual, see below). The SBA is streamlining this for loans under $150k. It will not require supporting documentation to be submitted with the application but only later, when applying for forgiveness.
  • Businesses trying to show the quarterly 25% revenue drop for 2nd PPP loans can cite an annual reduction of 25% and submit copies of annual tax forms to verify. SBA and Treasury say this will help small borrowers that may not have quarterly revenue information readily available.

For details on both first-draw and second-draw maximum loan amounts and eligible costs, this Journal of Accountancy article is the best summary I have read so far.

The AICPA has been very generous in encouraging us to share its slides from the Town Halls in order to get the word out. Here are a few “best of” from Thursday’s session. Again, I encourage you to watch for yourself to get some clarity.


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PPP2 Is Almost Here — Be Ready Or Risk Missing Out

For the past few weeks, we’ve been hearing in the news that Congress is coming closer to an agreement on another round of stimulus. It will be a more narrowly-targeted package than prior relief, but it will contain (at least the draft does) funding for the most important items: vaccine distribution; unemployment extension & federal supplement; stimulus checks; emergency food, rent & loan assistance; PPP loan forgiveness simplification; and our main topic here: another chance at PPP funding.

At this week’s AICPA Town Hall (free recording here), Lisa Simpson and Mark Peterson walked us through what is included in the current round of proposed legislation, and what it would mean for the next PPP program (popularly dubbed “PPP2”). They have encouraged us to share their slides and other resources.

Some of the notable elements are that 501(c)(6) organizations — including Chambers of Commerce — will be eligible for PPP this time, providing their lobbying efforts don’t exceed a certain threshold (10% as of now but that could change); and hospitality-industry chains will yet again be allowed to each apply for PPP as if they were independent hotels and restaurants (surprising after the negative press from the first round, but they have a loud voice in politics). Thankfully, the IRS and Congressional representatives are working together to include a provision for expenses paid for with PPP funds to be deductible — the current biggest obstacle for small businesses who receive(d) aid.

In addition, Lisa went through what we know so far about how the new PPP program will be structured and what eligibility requirements might look like. Keep in mind that this is all in draft at this point.

The idea is that if the gross revenues for any quarter in 2020 are down 30% or more over the same quarter in 2019, the business would be eligible for a second application for PPP funds, as long as they have 300 or fewer employees (per location, if in the hospitality industry). EIDL and PPP funds would not be included in this calculation, but no word yet on whether other aid, such as state, local or industry grants, would.

You do not have to apply for forgiveness for PPP1 before applying for PPP2 — in fact, we are still recommending that you hold off on your forgiveness application until Congress passes forgiveness simplification and tax deductibility of related expenses.

Nothing has been finalized yet and we don’t know all the details. But the AICPA has been meeting with politicians on both sides of the aisle and says that something is certainly going to be passed — it’s just a question of when, not if — and what the exact details will be.

It’s likely we’ll have news soon, and as such, it’s important that small business owners begin anticipating their next decision here, since time will likely be a factor — there is less capital in PPP2 than there was in the first round (which was exhausted in 6 days), so being prepared is key.

With that in mind — tips to consider if you might want to pursue additional PPP funding:

1) Have your books up-to-date and reconciled so you and your accountant can begin preparing your application the second the legislation drops.
2) There will be an eligibility hurdle for second-time PPP applicants. You will need to prove a 30% (as of now) drop in revenue — not profit, but gross revenue — in any quarter of 2020 compared to the same quarter in 2019. (If you didn’t get PPP funds in the first round and you want to this time, this rule does not apply.) The first round of PPP/EIDL does not count toward income for this purpose. No word yet on whether other grants may. Otherwise the calculations will be the same as in the first round.
3) I’m asking my interested clients to reach out to me to get their file set up in my CPA Business Funding Portal now, before legislation is passed, so we can just hit “submit” when the program opens, to try to get them in the first tranche of applicants.

(Note to other CPAs and accounting colleagues: this time around I am using AICPA-developed PPP application and forgiveness software, CPALoanPortal.com, so as to make the process for getting client funding less haphazard, more reliable, and more efficient. It’s free at the basic level, which allows you to apply for funding and forgiveness all in one portal, with a client dashboard. I’ve decided to pay to upgrade so I can use the payroll company reporting and AICPA FTE-calculator integrations. Their partner, Biz2Credit, was directly approved by SBA to lend money to small businesses; it’s not a third-party (like so many of the services we used first-time around who brokered loans as a middle-man). Looking forward to same-day PPP2 loan approvals, and disbursements within days. No I am not paid a cent to say any of this.)

Sincerely hoping the process goes more smoothly this time than it did in April!


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